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A new OpenRA website
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:29 pm    Post subject: A new OpenRA website Reply with quote

Recently Ive been talking about how a more developed website would be fitting to the current OpenRA state. I think an improved website would bring people together in one place, increase participation in every aspect of OpenRA (more contributions, more streamviewers, more people coding, etc).

Important note: by posting this I do not want to push any developer into making this. Its just a mockup if time, money and lines of code where unlimited. Again, its not a sneaky way of pushing this in OpenRA's throat, just to share a vision on what I think OpenRA could be like as well.

Second note: Yes, the design is ugly. Also the menu and all features dont have to be like this, its just a quick set up to explain what I mean.

The frontpage

On the left a menu with several main buttons. Most are selfexplanatory. Top right we see a couple buttons that lead us to the important satellites of OpenRA: IRC to talk to devs, Github to report issues and Discord to find yourself an opponent or chat. Some other buttons could be added, may have missed an important one.

Also on the frontpage there are several buttons with all kinds of news or other noteworthy happenings.

https://i.imgur.com/ItHIHjB.png

The forum

This is an example with a bunch of subfora that you can click on. These subfora are an example, I didnt take a lot of time to overthink which subfora would be usefull.

https://i.imgur.com/Dk23te4.png

The forum - Ive clicked on the Playtest subforum

https://i.imgur.com/gvmovyb.png

Leagues

Navigate through the menu to see the table for the specific division you want to see, which is updated by the League-admins.

https://i.imgur.com/mhF5aNB.png

Guides & Wiki

For basicly anything that has to do with OpenRA

https://i.imgur.com/ZsFaG7W.png

Players

A list with all players, their ratings, badges theyve earned etc.
Also note the Livestream button has a green light, indicating someone is streaming OpenRA at that very moment.
Under the livestream button youll find a list of streams and youtubechannels that broadcast OpenRA content.

https://i.imgur.com/ju9pQYI.png

Again, no intent to push my ideas through, just how I envision a website that would support OpenRA in its next step - if there would be no technical, financial and chronological limitations.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:26 pm  Reply with quote

Without radically modifying the current design, we can add new buttons into the menu :

https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/370320websiteUntitled1.png

Yes, on this mockup, there are much more buttons than before but there have been several people (me included) who complained about half-hidden links (forum, IRC channels, resource site, replays...).

  • the "Mods" link could load a new page, listing mods that are based on OpenRA (with some details, links and screenshots for each mod)








  • Next to the screenshots, on the left, a DIV displays the latest forum posts
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:27 am  Reply with quote

Yes, I think that would be a huge improvement! Also realized I didn't have a ModDB link.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:56 am  Reply with quote

Something you've wanted to do, only better Razz
https://www.reddit.com/r/openra/comments/6u5jzj/my_take_on_openra_website_design/
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:28 am  Reply with quote

Definitely! My main point was to explain how a more integrated website - with several of the interesting ways to enjoy OpenRA more prominently featured, and some "wish it was possible" features - would help to gather the community in one place and to increase participation.

His execution is certainly better and nicer for the eye!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:07 am  Reply with quote

Your efforts honor you, but what is this supposed to be?

If it is not criticism at the current web-layout and no hint to the devs where the page should go, nor a statement from you that you will be developing the website for OpenRA, what is it?

I much more like your hands-on effort to organize "The Dark Tournament" and the LiveStreams-Thread than these intellectual games on the forum.

Maybe you can post something on Github that you would be willing to maintain a Live Streams/Live Media/Social Media category on the OpenRA homepage like you do already on these forums. Im sure that would be appreciated and backed quite quickly. It's only ~10% of what you suggested here, but it would have a chance to become real.

Btw. many Indie developers who sell their games for money have worse websites than OpenRA.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:15 am  Reply with quote

Had a couple chats about OpenRA and things that was going on and I noticed that it was a lot of effort to explain what I had in mind, using just text. So I made this to explain and hopefully to spark interest and others to think with me.

Yes, the github route would be more hands-on. But I genuinely don't want to push devs into doing anything. Also I have allmost zero knowledge of website building. So I don't know what I ask (in terms of time and effort) and I don't even know if it's the best solution!

To sum up: this was a first step into sparking interest for an integrated site like this in the way I envisioned it. Also I hope in the future something like this will be created as it has many advantages - I think. Lastly Id like to express that I hope others will step in to help building whatever is the plan.

Edit: yes I'd be willing to maintain a page on the OpenRA site, but I don't many will view the list. Here more people see it. Also it would be best to let streamers enter times and dates and/or click some kind of button to show they're live, as I'm not able to check everywhere when people go live.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:22 am  Reply with quote

I don't think that there will be problems with how to proceed on site remake if/when there is a person to do it Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:27 am  Reply with quote

On Reddit someone offered their help:
https://www.reddit.com/r/openra/comments/6u5jzj/my_take_on_openra_website_design/.compact

As for the forum: at this time Pchote has no time to migrate everything and for privacy/security reasons he wants to do it himself - which is logical.

No need to rush though, Vellu offering help is greatly appreciated already!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:42 am  Reply with quote

netnazgul wrote (View Post):

I don't think that there will be problems with how to proceed on site remake if/when there is a person to do it Razz

Exactly. Most Features get canceled because there is no manpower to make and maintain. Some of the things which you are asking are not difficult:
  • A category which includes only static text like Livestreams or League only needs someone who knows what he is doing to initialy set up the page and then you (+minimal HTML knowledge aquired in 1 hour by watching youtube) maintaining the page.
  • A forum with dynamic entries and user accounts(!) is much more difficult. Like the Guides/Forums you suggested. Thats why the comment chat on the OpenRA homepage is notably "outsourced" to Google/Twitter/Facebook/Disqus.
  • Same thing for player lists, which is even more dynamic and would require a server to run the program updating the player info.

So, to recap: Livestreams(/Live Media/Videos) and Leagues(/Competitive/Tournaments) categories can be done tomorrow if anyone is willing to maintain it. The others are much more difficult.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:10 am  Reply with quote

Well, when the time is there I'd be willing to put in some time!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:07 pm  Reply with quote

xanax wrote (View Post):
Without radically modifying the current design, we can add new buttons into the menu

That is way too crowded. All proposals seem to suffer from that.
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